Tuesday, March 2, 2010

Natural Selection

How do I post pictures..? I shall find out.

The pictures shall have captions. From the original paper (read this after seeing the picture) -

Analysis --
Mutation has immediately died off. The genetic mutations were a HUGE, immediate threat to the body. Mutation is eliminated, and is not passed on. All mutations are dead and cannot reproduce. Therefore no more are created, and will not exist unless this mutation happens again.
Mutation is beneficial. They can escape most threats and survive quite well. They are allowed to have offspring because they are ALIVE because they SURVIVED. The gene is passed on because they reproduced. Most of these offspring have wings (deals with recessive genes).
Mutation (normal person) has survived, but not quite as well as . Their population grows, but as more of them DIE than Mutation, the population grows SLOWER than .
Mutation produces NO noticeable effects. They survive as well as , and birth of and are half and half with each Mutation. and combine populations generally.

Now, we can see which things lived. Natural Selection (NS) is logic because unless something unnatural intervenes, the SPECIES with the BEST mutations will survive best. The survived very good and almost always lived to their full life. They have a fast-growing population. The are all dead because they were incapable of surviving. Bad gene is gone because it cannot be passed on because owners of the gene are DEAD and CANNOT reproduce. survive well, but have a lower population than because they are not at the TOP, but rather are NEAR the TOP. F is combined with N.

54 comments:

  1. Please explain more logically. And read my blog and post your comments.
    -> http://www.alvintheodregen.blogspot.com

    jw...Why did you become an Atheist? I know you may have already explained this, but I would like a full sorry. plz

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  2. Crap I got salsa on my keyboard again. Always inbetween the keys..

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  3. I'm an Atheist because..
    1. Don't yell over this, everyone. My PARENTS were Atheists. They DIDN'T raise me as a Christian, however, which has no bearing on Atheist-ness. When I was little, I sided with my parents like all little kids.
    2. But once I came to the age of near-complete self-awareness (or slightly before), I decided for myself. I asked myself, was I a Christian, a Wiccan, or an Atheist? Since this school year I've become logical instead of just disbelieving the Christian propaganda .
    I think I am allowed to say you can't call me a parent-following brainwashed child because I have given up many biased opinions because they were illogical :\

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  4. My response to your comment on my blog. I wasn't going to call you a brainwashed child. Because many might say the same about me.

    1 Chris you are right, but to a point. Life does have no meaning withOUT God. God gives
    life a purpose.
    2. Yes, but where did that intelligence comes from? Bacteria did not just suddenly figure out how to make tools. In order for us to have evolved from less intelligent life forms, our DNA would have had to have added information, which has never been proven and can never be proven.
    3. Yes but it took billions of years for the life to evolve into humans, and the moon moves away very slowly so even if life forms evolved much later, the tides still would be huge. And and impact like the one that supposedly created the moon, would've also destroyed any conditions that would have made it impossible for life to form and wiped out any that was in existence before. The tides would have wiped out any of the conditions for life to be able to form. plus the seas wold have been too salty. The seas lose a little bit of their saltiness each year, so they must have been extremely salty if the earth was billions of years old. Too salty for life to form. (note I am not saying that an impact created the moon, because God did)
    4 carbon dating is inaccurate because once they dated a live muscle using it and it said that it was about 3,500 years old. What are talking about Civilizations date back from before 4kbc? How do you know how old civilizations are? You weren't there.

    What Christian propaganda? Please elaborate. And please don't insult my religion again. Please treat it with the same respect I have treated yours. I have not insulted your religion. I have simply used logic to show how logical my religion really is. This a debate/argument, not and insult fight.
    There you dissing my religion again.

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  5. delete that last sentence/ paragraph from your memory I forgot to take that out.

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  6. I agree with your drawings, because they support NS. I believe in NS.

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  7. okay I have to sign off now. resume debate later.

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  8. 1. Why does God give it a point?
    2. Not sure where the "intelligence" comes from, but it gets more complex over time. Unclear area of knowledge by humans.
    3. Deep under the sea level, tides don't really effect much. Earth Forming -> really hot and malleable -> BOOM Moon comes along -> Life comes along and Earth hardens. I think.
    4. Half-Life stuff. That's fairly accurate. For Civilizations - Ancient Egyptians - 6,500 BC.

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  9. Oh, should I weigh in here? hmm... :)

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  10. The thing is, life was an accident. If "God" wanted us to be the only thing in the universe, why did "He" put so many frickin' stars around us? It's simply a coincidence of random protien patterns that life came to be, and the fact that we are sentient is because of random mutations. When I say mutations, I don't mean X-Men, I mean natural selection of the select few that are able to survive. The very question that we are sentient comes into play.
    P.S. Cloudotter, I would recommend against the whole picture thing. Write it out in words, or talk to Danith or someone about posting pictures so the blog doesn't look like it's written by a three year old. No offense, but MS paint just doesn't cut it.

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  11. Now that we're talking about religion, may I introduce new kosher foods: The Crouton O'Christ and the Jeez-It.
    I have nothing against those with religions, it's just the fact that religion was created only to answer the tribespeople's questions about the world. Now that we know the answers, religion becomes illogical.

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  12. I have photoshop but I don't know much about it. So I used paint because it's easier for basic things. I used my pen o.O

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  13. Doc Ott is one of my "Chemist Friends". And yes, religion was for when we didn't know much about the universe. Now that we know much more, and can find out more, we have the answers. But religion doesn't want to go away because people keep making exceptions with what we don't know and their god does.

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  14. If you would like to see my take on this argument (which I refuse to post on the ATYP blog), you can either look at my blog: http://glsweetness.blogspot.com/

    Or you can look at my comment under The Arguments post in this blog.

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  15. Chris- God gives it a point because we can live for Him, and then we get the most fulfilling feeling you can ever experience. it is as if your whole heart is full. You probably don't understand this because you have never experienced it.
    So you can't answer where the intelligence came from? Then doesn't make sense that there was a designer? Even in the other religions something made all the animals.(Note i am not saying that this is right. Only God has the power to create something out of nothing)

    gim- We do not know the answers about the world! Evolution is just a theory remember. And remeber I believe in Natural Selection because it has bee proven by science while evolution has not. No one has actually seen it take place. Christianity is not made up, it is real because there are so many situations when coincidences don't happen like that. IF you want me to elaborate please just ask. How many animals have you seen evolve in the past few centuries? IF you don't know I can tell you- the answer is none. God put all the Stars around us to show us an example of how powerful and creative He is. I mean the big dipper did just happen to form did it? Umm..I thought you based your reasons on logic, and the fact that it was all just an accident doesn't seem that logical to me. btw I would appreciate if you didn't use my religion in such a joking and sarcastic manner. aka "The Crouton O'Christ and the Jeez-It". IF you don't have anything against them then please don't make fun of them please.

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  16. ERRORS LOTS OF THEM (sorry).
    "You probably don't understand this because you have never experienced it."
    I have experienced it from different sources.

    "Evolution is just a theory remember."
    Remember, Creationism is a theory based on faith. It is a theory without much scientific holding.

    "No one has actually seen it take place...How many animals have you seen evolve in the past few centuries?"
    Past FEW centuries? That's not a long time. That's nearly nothing in a relative sense. It takes TIME. LOTS of time. A few hundred years isn't that long. The fast thing I can think of is: Bug is hit on head while a child; falling seed or something. It traumatized the insect; when it had babies it had adapted to grow HELMETS to PROTECT its HEAD from falling seeds.

    "God put all the Stars around us to show us an example of how powerful and creative He is."
    Does he need examples if he exists?

    "I mean the big dipper did just happen to form did it?"
    Confusing Cause and Effect. The big dipper didn't form the , the big di

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  17. SOrry posting error >_>

    The big dipper didn't form the stars, the stars formed the big dipper. It only looks like a big dipper because you think it does. It could have been anything else; it is drawn from the imagination.

    I didn't say The Jeez-It >_> That was someone else. Was it Ott? Or Otter? I said Cheesus. It's so fun :D

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  18. YOu cannot have eperienced it, f you have not experienced it from God. The feeling is totally spereate from any other feeling ever felt. Again I say, You cannot understand it if you ahve not felt it from God.

    -Even if animals took a long time to evolve, wuld there be a LEAST one spieces that is still evolving. How do you know that the Earth was created a certain way? Were you there?

    -HE needs examples to show us his power and might, and to prove to people on Earth that the Earth and stars didn't just happen to form. He put them there on purpose.

    -You are probably right about the big dipper, but you cannot say that the sun just happened to be put just far enough away from the Earth to keep it warm, but not to close to burn it up? Surely you cannot say it is an accident. It is evidence of intelligent design.

    -I know you didn't I was talking to Ryan. I just wanted to clarify that I don't like my Religion to be reduced down to a joke/ snack food.

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  19. Sorry for all the errors. :(

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  20. If you look around, there's articles on a species of Madagascan bird that has been noted as showing evolution after only ten years. Ten years.
    Owned.

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  21. Forever I am doomed to travel these paths of electrons, searching for the true answer.

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  22. And so here at the end of my life, I do once again betray a former master. The path ahead is fraught with peril. But I will do all I can to keep it stable - keep you safe. I'm not so foolish to think this will absolve me of my sins. One life hardly balances billions.

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  24. Who the heck has been on my account?

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  25. WTF WTF WTF Did I post that about the bug?! I SWEAR I DID! Yes, it evolved in a big way in ONE generation. Extremely rare :D
    Wait what did it say?!

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  26. WOW! WOW WOW WOW WOW WOW! Amazing! Ok, Chris, so you say that your parents raised you as an atheist, but that had an absolutely miniscule part in your decision to be an atheist. WOW! Ignorance and arrogance, I declare. Chris, you SAY that it had no factor, but you really have no idea how MUCH of a factor it actually had. If you were raised Christian, then it is 95% likely that you would have turned out a Christian. Same goes for atheism; since your parents were atheists at the time of your birth, there was a 95% chance that you were an atheist, and whaddya know; you are. Chris, I'm really sorry, but I think you need to shed some pride. Yes, you only had that feeling of self awareness because you were being aware to the things that you parents were teaching you. Yes, there is the occasional Chloe, but I only know two of those people out of everyone I know.

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  27. I don't get it..? Just interview my mom. Where did you get the statistics?

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  28. Here's the thing. My family, and their families, have been episcopalian for as long as anyone can remember. Now we're not. Owned.

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  29. The clocks on each of these blogs is screwed up.

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  30. Show me those articles, and has evolution occurred completely so that it has evolved into a totally different species that can no longer interbreed with the original one. That is how evolution supposedly takes place. I really don't think that that bird has done that, if it changed slightly as a species how ever than THAT IS NS!!!!!!!! EVOLUTION and NS are TOTALLY DIFFERENT!

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  31. All right, here we friggin' go. Look the article up if you want to argue with me. Otherwise, I will continue TTFATF spamming.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jgrCKhxE1s

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  32. that's not the article. and whoa, those guys have waaaay longer hair than me...

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  33. WOW, things are starting to get interesting. However, team faith is still going to win this fight. Not only do we have three or four times as many people than team logic, but we are obviously right.

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  34. Actually, i fell kind of stupid now.

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  35. No offense, but I feel that you're kind of stupid right now. Or do I mean I feel that you feel that you're feeling stupid? ...*head explodes*

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  36. I may be stupid, but at least I know that it is bad to start a sentence with "or".

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  37. If it is not, then it should be.

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  38. What it should be (willan on-what) or when (willan on-when and on-eat)

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  39. Hitchiker's guide to the Galaxy?

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  40. Paraphrase but yes.
    Парафраза, но да.

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  41. Isacc, the goal is not to win the argument, but to get them to believe in God and that Jesus died for them.

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  42. *cough* *cough*
    Do we have to include Jesus (no offense intended)

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  43. I will, but if you don't believe it, I won't force you to :) But, have you read my whole thing on the other topic about Him?

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  44. Where can I find this whole other thing? (inputs coordinates into artillery piece)

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  45. There are 456 meessianic passages in the Bible. 109 were about the Jew's Messaiah. Jesus fulfilled all 109.
    There is a tiny chance for even twenty of these to be fulfilled in one man. Copied out of Left Behind, hence the ""
    "The very first qualification of Messiah, accepted by our scholars from the beginning, is that he should be born the seed of a woman, not the seed of a man like all other human beings. We know now that women do not possess' seed . 'The man provides the seed for the woman's egg. And so this must be a supernatural birth, as foretold in Isaiah 7:14,' Therefore the Lord Himself will give you a sign: Behold, the virgin shall conceive and bear a Son , and shall call his name Immanuel. 'Our Messiah must be born of a woman and not of a man because he must be righteous. All other humans are born of the seed of their father, and thus the sinful seed of Adam has been passed on to them. Not so with the Messiah, born of a virgin. "

    "Our Messiah must be born of an extremely rare bloodline. While he must be born of a Woman, that woman bust be of a bloodline that includes many of the fathers of Israel. God Himself eliminated billions of people from this select bloodline so Messiah's identity would be unmistakable. First God eliminated two-thirds of the world's population by choosing Abraham, who was from the line of Shem, one of Noah's three sons. Of Abraham's two sons, God chose only Isaac, eliminating half of Abraham's progeny. One of the two sons of Isacc, Jacob, recieved the blessing but passed it on to only one of his twelve sons, Judah. That elimainated millions of other sons in Israel. The prophet Isaiah years later singled out King David as another through whom Messiah would come , predicting that he would be a 'root out of Jesse.' David's father, Jesse, was a son of Judah. Messiah, according to the prophet Micah, must be born in Bethlehem. 'But you, Bethlehem Ephrathah, though you are little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of you shall come forth to Me the One to be Ruler in Israel, whose goings forth are from of old, from everlasting. ' "

    "One of the prophecies is that Messiah will be rejected by his own people. Isaiah prophesied, 'He is desprised and rejected by men, a Maan of sorrows and acquatinted with grief. And we hid, as it were, our faces from Him; He was despised, and we did not esteem Him. "Additional prophecies include:
    He will be betrayed by a friend (Judah)
    He will be betrayed for thirty pieces of silver.
    He will look on the one whom they have pierced.
    He was resurrected.
    He went to Egypt as a child.
    He ministered mostly in Galilee
    He was pierced without breaking a bone
    And
    "According to one of the greatest of all Hebrew prophets, Daniel, there would be exactly 483 years between the decree to rebuild the wass and the city of Jerusalem 'in troublesome times' before Messiah would be cut off for the sins of the people. Exactly 483 years after the rebuilding of Jerusalem and its walls, Jesus Christ of Nazareth offered himself to the nation of Israel. He rode into the city on a donkey to the rejoicing of the people, just as the prophet Zechariah had predicted: 'rejoice greatly , O daughter of Zion! Shout, O daughter of Jersalem! Behold, your King is coming to you; He is just and having salvation, lowly and riding on a donkey, a colt, the foal of a donkey. "

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  46. Wow, all of those prophecies did come true. And Emily our purpose is NOT to convert them, but to let God work through us to reach them with His love. The only thing WE can do is present the facts, and tell them that God loves them (Which He does) and then God does the rest. Even still, THEY must decide for THEMSELVES. We cannot force them to change their mind.

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  47. By the way, it's Jesus of Nazareth, not Jesus Christ of Nazareth.

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